Green Jobs? now legal in Oregon

[Chinook SSSF]

I find it interesting that every time the subject of "green jobs" comes up at a white house press conference or white house-town hall meeting it is quickly made into a joke-able laughing matter that confuses even ground level reporters and journalists.

http://www.smallstreamsalmonfishing.com/sssfimages/hostedimages08/hempusa.jpg

I found this interesting drawing on a news group recently. After doing a little research into this I found that Hemp, a sub species of Cannibus contains only 0.2 THC and is not used as a drug. This could be a great source of fiber and jobs in the USA. Currently ban under the [failed] white house war on drugs.

I was thinking it was time to look into all viable means of safe economic stimulus, new jobs prospects and preservation of natural resources. I could be wrong :cool:

[Arctic]

You know, there really are alot of way to go about this whole debacle, and Hemp cultivation could certainly be one of them. There are other species of green that produce some fantastic products. Mustard Seed oil for instance is by far the greatest bio fuel we have screwd around with. We have a bio still at a friends house, and his dad is running all of their Diesel powered work trucks on Mustard Seed oil. And using th eexcess to het the home. A company I used to work for in Canby has recently dedicated a whole division, and new building to mixers. Essentially for Bio-diesel plants. It ha created a number of "green" oriented jobs. I guess weneed to start from nowhere to ge tresults, but this subject in particular is just seemingly moving in circles, not foward...We need to give someone a good kick in the pantalounes, and maybe the teeth too to get this thing off the ground... T. Boone Pickens, you in old timer, your boots are big!

[Chinook SSSF]

Yea, thats a new one to me to, the mustard seed oil.......I noticed yesterday on a certain blog I read I will not link here that another "Hemp" bill has been introduced in the hopes that the Obama administration would take a second look. Not likely, like many other things to happen to soon...because like many of Americas other current debacles, this is just to hot of a topic for an election year.

Thanks for the input on Musard seed oil......sounds like a good thing :) Think I will look that up tonight on ole Wiki

[Arctic]

Diesel power was originally designed to be cooled, and operated with Flaxseed oil, and duh, duh, duh...Hempseed oil. Flaxseed oil is expensive to manufacture, but it is chemically superior to classic petroleum products. But the extraction of oils, from Hemp products takes a high school diploma, a little interest, and a few thousand dollars to start up. Cheap if you can manufacture combustible gas-alternatives at roughly 20-70 cents per gallon depending on the process used, and the chemicals chosen to extract, and mix with..

[Chinook SSSF]

So it turns out that Hemp was legal and in use in U.S. agriculture, regulated & taxed and even promoted on the premis of victory in war. I found this very cool old video released by the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture in 1942 entitled "Hemp for Victory" This tells the story of a country and government asking America's farmers for an increase of hemp production of 300,000 acres or more to support war efforts. All chance of modern day hemp use was ended around 1970 by the Nixon administrations war on drugs. I do find it also interesting that according to the DEA, still holding tighlty to the 1970 Nixon administration ruling, that "Hemp" is a dangerous schedual 1 narcotic. Really?

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[Chinook SSSF]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_oil

Wiki's take on Mustard Seed Oil.

One news group source article about MSO used to power cars of the future.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/green-pages/13950150/detail.html

Care to add anything Artic? Any links worth checkin out?

[Chinook SSSF]

I picked this up on FoxBusiness (http://www.foxbusiness.com/index.html), poking around for current status info. It seems there was/is a bill introduced this year [2009] to allow for industrial hemp cultivation in the U.S.A.

Source FoxBusiness: Friday, April 03, 2009
Hemp Bill Supported by Barney Frank, Ron Paul (http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/government/industrial-hemp-bill-finds-legislative-support/)


Could be a green job in the future after all? It could only be possible if Frank and Paul can get Obama and Kerlikowske to remove it from the DEA's schedule 1 catagory as one of the most dangerous narcotic drugs in the world :eek:


Wonder if anyone ever spent time in prison for cultivation of industrial hemp? :rolleyes:

[worm slayer]

I may be wrong but are hemp and the one for medicinal value different plants?

[Chinook SSSF]

Yes, entirely...I think it is mentioned at the top. Hemp is said to contain only 0.2 to 0.3 % THC. Recent news media on Cnn and Fox have been boasting Medical forms to contain an average of 15.0% THC or more so there is a difference.

Wild growing hemp still occures in the U.S.A. A by product of legal pre-Nixon industrial hemp farming as shown in the "Hemp for Victory" film above. Wild hemp is now refered to as "ditchweed" and although this is not smoked or used by any form of smoker, the DEA still spends millions a year on paying teams to seek out and irradicate these wild hemp pockets because of it's schedual 1 listing.

This has turned out to be one of those things that the more I looked into it, the more interesting it got.

[Chinook SSSF]

OK I wanted to update this thread because something amazing happened just a month ro 2 ago now. The state of Oregon has legalized the growth and production of industrial hemp. Under federal law hemp remains a controlled substance and is not legal nation wide. Oregon is not the first or only state to take this position. It is very likely that the federal stance on this will change soon and allow state to decide.

Source : http://hemp.org/news/legalizing-hemp-in-oregon

[cody carlson]

nixon was a dumb*** and the DEA needs to worry more about meth and heroine then a plant

[Chinook SSSF]

I understand and I agree, let’s just keep in mind that we are only talking about industrial hemp here. It is no secret that our Gov. finds and cherishes many ways to waste billions of tax payer dollars. Perhaps the war on ditch weed is the most silly of examples. Hemp or ditchweed as it is called is still thought to grow naturaly in more than 40 states left over from the "Hemp for Victory" era. The DEA spends millions of dollars on well trained teams that drive around the country looking for and destroying plots of wild growing roadside industrial hemp. The reason this is being done is not because the wild growing industrial hemp is a danger to us or our children as a "drug" but in reality it is because our Gov. has stated that it is a danger to us and our children as a "drug" and they have proof! Proof because it’s on their schedule 1 most dangerous [with no other use medical or industrial] narcotic list posted directly on the DEA web site. It is simply lumped in with another popular schedual 1 listing that we are not going to be talking about at this forum.

[bait dunker]

The problem with hemp for paper fiber, etc is that it doesn't pencil out. Currently it's much cheaper to use wood products or even recycle paper. It's not as much a "pot" stigma in America that's keeping hemp production from emerging. Even cotton, poly and other ropes are cheaper to produce. Untill it can be grown and processed cheaper, it will be relegated to making hippie purses at the country fair.